Dear Grandpa,
I’ve decided to write you this letter because I honestly haven’t been able to get you out of my head for the past few weeks. The last conversation we had on the phone didn’t end too well, (since we both ended up arguing and avoiding talking to each other for the next few weeks) but I think it is time to bring up the topic once again. Now, I understand that you might possibly never agree with me, but I want to try to help you understand why I believe in gay rights and their right to adopt children. I hope you are willing to hear me out and to keep an open mind as I try to explain to you why I will always stand by my beliefs. In turn, I promise to do the same for you.
First, I wanted to let you know that I do recognize where you are coming from. I realize that you were raised as a Roman Catholic, and the catholic church is strongly opposed to homosexuality. For this reason, I wouldn’t want you to sacrifice your beliefs or religion in anyway. However, I wanted to let you know my point of view. The last time we talked, you pointed out a few verses from the bible that support the idea that God is against same sex practices. Just to refresh your memory a bit, below I’ve include two examples of verses that have stuck with me since then:
"You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female. It is an abomination." - Leviticus 18:6
"A man who sleeps with another man is an abomination and should be executed." - Leviticus 20:13
Anyone who comes across these verses in the Bible, particularly those that are more religious, will automatically become troubled by these words. Nobody wants to be thought of as an “abomination” to anyone, especially not in the eyes of the ones you love most. “God didn’t make a man and a woman for no reason. Being with another man is not natural and therefore, shouldn’t be done.” While those are both legitimate reasons you’ve repeatedly told me during our last conversation, I do not believe that homosexuality is a choice, therefore I certainly do not believe they should be denied the rights given to any heterosexual couple. (White, 58)
"You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female. It is an abomination." - Leviticus 18:6
"A man who sleeps with another man is an abomination and should be executed." - Leviticus 20:13
Anyone who comes across these verses in the Bible, particularly those that are more religious, will automatically become troubled by these words. Nobody wants to be thought of as an “abomination” to anyone, especially not in the eyes of the ones you love most. “God didn’t make a man and a woman for no reason. Being with another man is not natural and therefore, shouldn’t be done.” While those are both legitimate reasons you’ve repeatedly told me during our last conversation, I do not believe that homosexuality is a choice, therefore I certainly do not believe they should be denied the rights given to any heterosexual couple. (White, 58)
To me, homosexuality should not be considered an abomination; it’s a part of life. Homosexuality has been around since before Christ, not just the last few centuries it has been exploited by society. In fact, homosexuality was actually encouraged in both the Roman and Greek armies during ancient times. The thought was that men would fight more bravely to defend their country if they loved the people they were fighting with and would want to protect them. (Smith, 7)
In agreement, two men who want to be together do not lack the capability of being just as affectionate and loving with each other as they would be with someone of the opposite sex. It also does not hinder their ability of being responsible and capable of raising a family as well. Statistics have shown that children raised by same sex couples are just as intelligent as a children who were raised by a heterosexual couple. In fact, children who were raised in a single parent household are more likely to have more issues with self-esteem and discipline than those with gay parents. (Alfano, 7) I believe that anyone who wants to raise a child and proves that they are able of doing so should be given the opportunity.
In the Presidential Campaign Questionnaire of 2008, Obama was asked his opinion on gay couples adopting children. His response was “I believe there are too many children who need loving parents to deny one group of people adoption rights. A child will benefit from a healthy, loving home, whether the parents are gay or not." (Giordano, 23) Even if you do not agree that homosexuality is morally right, you can’t turn away from the amount of children without parents and in need of homes. A couple that has a steady income and has shown to be emotionally responsible should be given the same chances, regardless of their sexual preferences.
I have also been doing some research in biological anthropology and came across something applicable to homosexuality. From an evolutionary standpoint; if you accept the premise that everything we do from a reproductive standpoint is to better our gene pool, ie. everything affects our “fitness” and homosexuality has been proven have been around for 2000 years, why hasn’t this “poor gene” or “abomination” been weeded out? To put in simpler terms, it does not affect our ability to survive in any negative way. If it did, we would not be able to survive as a species and therefore, that undesirable trait would have died off. However, since it clearly has not died off yet, the trait cannot be awful from an evolutionary standpoint. (Larsen, 96)
Correspondingly, one of the biggest concerns facing our world today is over population. Why would we try to ban something that not only diminishes population (since two people of the same gender cannot reproduce) but also increases quality of living for those people who are already on this planet? Regardless of what you think about homosexuality, you must agree that taking kids out of foster homes and other unsavory conditions improves quality of life for them. As a religious person, you are supposed to be in support of generous and loving acts. Raising a child that is not biologically your own can definitely be considered an act of kindness.
Essentially, we both can agree that we should choose the good of an individual over an ideal. We can have our own ideals and hold true to them in ourselves, but what other people do to pursuit their happiness, which is protected by the 5th Amendment, is not something that we should impede on.
So, perhaps we can come to the compromise that, at the bare minimum, good effects of same sex marriage can outweigh the pitfalls. Parents who cannot have kids of their own get to raise children that are in desperate of said home. You can still respect your religion by not loving a man yourself and you can let other people be happy in their own lives and help the living conditions of children in need.
Can’t wait to see you again,
Jess
Works Cited
Alfano, Sean. "Kids Of Same-Sex Parents Do Fine - CBS News." Breaking News Headlines: Business, Entertainment & World News - CBS News. 12 Oct. 2005. Web. Mar. 2011.
Cathy, Smith A. "The History of Gays in the Military – The Sacred Band of Thebes." Suite101.com: Online Magazine and Writers' Network. 19 Dec. 2010. Web. Mar. 2011.
Giordano, Scott A. "Barack Responds to Human Rights Campaign Questionnaire." Organizing For America. 14 June 2007. Web. Mar. 2011.
Larsen, Clark Spencer. Our Origins: Discovering Physical Anthropology. New York: W.W. Norton &, 2008. Print.
White, Rev. Mel. "What the Bible Says - And Doesn't Say - About Homosexuality." Soulforce. 2011. Web. Mar. 2011.
Hey Julia!
ReplyDeleteI really liked your argument topic first of all, and I thought it was cool how you related it to a real life situation that actually is occurring in your life. If made the argument a lot more meaningful as a result and gave you more freedom to use your opinion and own beliefs to back up and support your claim. I thought you did a good job incorporating the Greek and Roman example in your essay as a way to show that homosexuality has been existent in history for a long time. I also thought the use of Obama as a as a credible source who supports homosexuality was a smart choice. I also thought it was good that you defended your claim from multiple perspectives. First you talk about how it is good from the point of view that it gives homeless children more of an opportunity, and then you back up your argument from a biological standpoint to make your argument relatable to any audience. You also support it from a religious point of view. I thought it was appropriate that you wrapped up your paper with a solid compromise sentence stating exactly what you wanted.
There was however a few ways in which I thought you could improve your argument. One thing I noticed when first reading through was that you started out your essay with your claim that you are supportive of gay rights. In order to make the argument more Rogerian, maybe you should wait until later in your essay to state your point of view. Also, in the third paragraph you make an assumption that anyone would be offended by the bible quotes you incorporated. I think there is a better way you could rephrase that because truthfully, there probably are a lot of religious people out there who would not find this quote troubling. You also say that when your grandpa states that “a man being with another man is not natural” that this is legitimate reasoning. I think this could be interpreted as an opinion. In your eight paragraph you say “as a religious person you are supposed to be in support of loving acts”. I think that you should specify “religious person” more clearly stating whether your grandpa is Catholic or Christian or what religion he is. Other than these few exceptions, I thought you had a pretty solid essay. Keep up the good work brohan!
Jess,
ReplyDeleteI really enjoyed reading your essay. It was very well-constructed with much excellent support and a very strong Rogerian sense of compromise.
I enjoyed your introduction in that you begin by empathizing with your grandfather (whom you call "Grandpa" for an even greater effect) by addressing him personally and explaining what you are going to be talking about and how you will approach it with sympathy and an empathic ear. I very much like your goal of trying to make him understand and reconsider slightly rather than completely change his viewpoint. Yes, that is the Rogerian style, but you executed it here in a very well thought-out and captivating way. This is one of two paragraphs in your essay that stood out to me as really exceptional.
In paragraph two, where you list the quotes from The Bible, could you perhaps incorporate those into your text rather than listing them? It would make the flow a little lighter. Also in the second paragraph, where you are responding to those quotes, I got a bit confused about which ideas were yours, which were White's and who White is. I noticed this throughout your paper that you have excellent sources, but don't take the time to introduce them. Introducing them will give them much credibility and further support your argument. In this case, White is supporting your "opposing argument," which you do a wonderful job of supporting. I can tell you really thought about the structure, organization, and flow of your paper ahead of time.
In paragraph 3, you have a bit of a misrepresentation. Having studied Western Civilization and written a research paper on homosexuality in the Western World, particularly Greece and Italy and specifically Athens and Rome, I know that your sentence, "In fact, homosexuality was actually encouraged in both the Roman and Greek armies during ancient times" is only half true. It was encouraged in the Greek world, yes, but be sure not to muddle the reasoning: the idea was the a man would take on the care of a boy and teach him in the context of a mentorship. This mentorship was pederast in nature in that the relationship between the man and boy often became sexual. Romans, however, were not accepting of homosexuals -- they didn't want them in their society and chose to ignore them, putting no strong emphasis on them in their army. Be sure, though, that you are conveying this notion of mentorship as opposed to arbitrary relationship.
In paragraph 4, you have a good source -- that children in same-sex and opposite-sex homes respond differently to society -- but don't introduce it. I would really like to know the credibility of this source.
Paragraph 5 was the second paragraph I really enjoyed -- you have a beautiful source (the Obama quote) and incorporate it wonderfully and proceed to explain it thoughtfully.
Perhaps paragraph 6 could use a little bit our credibility, specifically in regard to the statement, "...homosexuality has been proven [to] have been around for 2000 years...".
In your concluding paragraph, you do a good job of summarizing your ideas (although you really placed your thesis in your next-to-last paragraph), but introduce the new idea of the 5th Amendment. This inclusion feels arbitrary -- I would consider explaining it further or taking it out; it seems unnecessary as it appears.
Overall, a very thoughtful essay that I enjoyed reading. Excellent work and best of luck on your final draft.
-Matthew Fisher
Jess,
ReplyDeleteGreat start to your paper! I really enjoyed the setup (audience, situation). It was very clear and therefore, it helped to understand the rest. You clearly have a strong POV on this topic and from that, your paper was strong and well written.
That being said, I was a bit nit picky and found a few minor things that could be fixed to make this even better.
1) Quotes/Sources: A few times your sources were either underutilized, cited (where I wasn't unsure what was from that source), or there were quotes with no citing after. I would say to just be cautious of that.
2) "I wouldn't want you to sacrifice your beliefs or religion.": Elaborate? Doesn't he have to vaguely change beliefs if you want him to agree with you in some capacity?
3) "proves that they are unable of doing so." (raising a kid): Explain? What does "able" mean? Income? Personality? etc..
4) It may be beneficial to explain heterosexual adoptions and connect that to homosexual adoptions. You could question why/how they are different. (This is just a suggestion.)
All in all, this is a great start. I am just being nit picky but, I really liked your topic. Just be wary of getting slight tunnel vision. Your opinion is so strong and you seem so passionate about this issue. Don't allow it to cloud seeing the other side. You did said "I understand that you..." or things of that ilk a few times but, even so, be sure you are elaborating on the things you don't understand and allowing him to realize how he thinks.
That being said, Great start and keep it up!
Peggy
Hey Jess,
ReplyDeleteJust from reading the words "Dear Grandpa" I knew I was going to enjoy this essay because from just those two words I knew that you were taking your essay in a different direction This is something personal for you and you did a great job of making me understand that.
As far as this being Rogerian I though you did a nice job. You handled the argument delicately by accepting your grandfather's side while simultaneously being firm with your own side.
I liked the points you presented such as homosexuality being around since ancient times and everything you said about children in regard to same sex marriages. I thought you supported each idea very well and you had great evidence.
My only concerns have to do with the assumption you make when you say, after the Bible quotes, that anyone will automatically become troubled by these words. To some people that may not be necessarily true. Also, there were some mechanical errors with punctuation and such here and there. Just be careful of things like that.
Other than that, great job!
Justine
Jess,
ReplyDeleteThis is a great first draft. Your topic and positioning on this argument is relevant and should be addressed in a rogerian style, like you do here. Writing it in letter form, especially to your grandpa, makes the whole paper more personal. Addressing it to your grandpa was very smart because usually older people have more conservative values when it comes to homosexuals and other things in general.
You use the rogerian style, "i wanted to let you know that i do recognize where you are coming from", "I hope", "I wanted to let you know my point of view" are used in the right context. I also like how you bring up the religious aspect in this paper, which is very important. Using the two verses from the bible were strong quotes to take out to show the other point of view. This also more than likely gave you more credibility for the other side to understand that you know where they are coming from.
Bringing in the question that Obama had in the campaign questionnaire of 2008 into the argument was a smart way to show how important the issue is the the country and its relevance.
Transitioning from homosexuality into gay adoption rights was really well done. and the compromise that you have made is very true and people should be remembered.
There are some things that I would look over again. First, you put your claim in the beginning of the paper. even though you said to hear you out, some people may not listen to that part, and therefore shut out the rest of your argument. Second, the sentence on the 5th amendment isn't really needed. you have a lot of other evidence and research done that one sentence wont make or break your paper. Finally, I feel that there is more common ground that should be talked about, including the importance of children, importance of being equal especially with rights, and the importance of giving children the right to live a great life.
Hope this helps!
Rachel
Jess,
ReplyDeleteI really liked your essay and how you stood up for yourself and what you believe in. You did a great job at letting us know what you thought and what the other side thought. I thought maybe your claim was to early because i knew exactly what you were gonna be talking about in the first paragraph. You do a good job at pointing out topics such as homosexuality being around for awhile and many people are born that way.
I also like the format you used. Like a letter to your grandfather and how you described it was an argument between the both of you. I found this to be a very good rough draft and you must have known exactly what topic you wanted to write about when considering this topic.
Jess,
ReplyDeleteFirst off, this paper is really fantastic. It felt personal and dealt with a very relevant topic today and you argued for gay couples adoption rights wonderfully. Your use of bible quotes was a very nice touch that I appreciated. One thing I noticed is that both of those quotes were from the same part of the bible, perhaps you might find something from another part of the bible to either support or conflict those two parts of leviticus? Just a thought. One other thing is the two paragraphs at the bottom are very short, perhaps they could be combined or expanded upon? I really loved this paper though, it's my favorite Rogerian paper I've read in this class so far.
Excellent work,
Josh
Hey Jess!
ReplyDeleteI really like that your letter to your grandpa is very open and empathetic. You begin with understanding his position and are not very forward in your opinion. It starts off very well but I’m not sure if your opening is too similar to the example we read in class?
You are very direct in your second paragraph as you state your oppositions. I like how you reiterate your stance but I’m not sure if your opinion should come in right away before you completely state his opinion. But I do enjoy how you use phrases such as “While those are both legitimate reasons” throughout.
I think this is a very persuasive letter but I felt it wasn’t as rogerian as it could be. You take a paragraph to explain his stance (which seems solely to be religious) but I felt since your give so much more time to your stance he might stop reading at a certain point. Although your argument is strong, I think in this situation, it would help if you spent more time focusing on his point of view.
But this is a really strong first draft. KEEP UP THE GOOD WOOKR JESS!
Jess
ReplyDeleteYour paper is excellent. It follows the path we learned in class really well. You are just passive enough in your voice to sound reasonable when trying to find a connection to your grandfathers views without sounding fake. Also your quotes from the bible fit very well. The only thing I would suggest is actually working them in to the paper as opposed to simply stating them and then following them with your analysis. I think your topic might also be a little too controversial for the argument to be as effective as you would like. It is very hard for people to change their views on this topic. However your argument is very strong and you relate very well to your grandfathers ideals. Overall its a great paper.
Alex Dietz-Kest
Jess
ReplyDeleteYou have a very good first draft going here. I really like how you are specifically addressing your grandfather. It creates a very personal tone for this paper, and it creates a less argumentative and more rogerian environment. Furthermore, you have a lot of interesting evidence to back up your point of view. i do have a few suggestions though
1) I would provide a little more understanding of the opposing viewpoint. You only really seem to highlight their religious beliefs, but I'm sure that those against homosexual marriage and adoption have more reasons than just their religious beliefs.
2) although you have a lot of great reasoning on your behalf, try to find more common ground with the opposing viewpoint. You only have one very short paragraph pointing out one similar value. I think there is a lot more to explore within the idea you proposed as well as find other ways to connect to the opposition. This will strengthen your paper quite a bit.
These are the only major suggestions I have. Like I said, you have a really strong paper going, but try to take the opposing viewpoints and values into account a bit more and connect them with your own views. That will really help you out in creating a very strong rogerian argument.
Hey Jess:
ReplyDeleteNice work! You really found a way to make a prevalent topic your own by presenting it with your own twist. The title is excellent, and clearly conveys your point of view on this age-old issue. The letter format really suits your argument, and adds nice depth to the Rogerian style.
ALong with the Rogerian style, you use many tactics of compromise in your essay, many of which I made note of on your paper. From the beginning you use a very calm tone and I can see that you are really sending a friendly gesture to your grandpa.
Your use of acknowledgement and response made your essay strong. You hit all of the main points of the opposite argument (religion, effects on the children) and found evidence to back it up.
One recommendtation I would make is to introduce your sources and share their credentials. For sources like the Bible, there really isn't a need to do that, but in paragraph three, for example, tell us who White is.
Another important point is to use quotation marks when citing sources. There were several places where I wasn't sure where the quote began or ended, and that made it difficult to follow your argument.
Overall, nice job. I made some notes on yuor essay about re-ordering or combining paragraphs, and I think that will really help your essay flow smoothly. Good luck on your final draft! You're off to an excellent start.
-Francesca
Jess, addressing this argument to your grandfather makes the Rogerian process seem a lot easier, because you are very simply laying out your views and respectfully addressing your grandfather and other opposers views. I thought referencing the bible was a good decision since it is often center around debates such as this, and the Obama quote is very powerful. I think your last few paragraphs and conclusion can be edited to reach a more concise point, and then the conclusion could be a bit longer. I personally would focus on the point of overpopulation, you could really add a lot to your essay if you expanded that paragraph.
ReplyDeleteHey Jessica,
ReplyDeleteI love your start on this paper. The letter format creates a sense of intimacy between you and the reader allowing the reader to see how significant the chosen topic is for you.
Gay adoption rights are very controversial as we all know, and it is very hard to convince anyone about things they have always believed in since they were children.
The only thing about this paper would be if you were to reconsider your audience and what you want them to get out of this paper. Since you are directing it to your grandfather, and since he is much more religious, it only makes sense that you include a bible passage to support your claims, and of course convince your audience of your position in the topic.
Other than that great work!
Besa
Hey Jess,
ReplyDeleteFirst off, I really like how you address your paper to your grandfather- it makes the argument a lot more clear and easy to stay on top of. I like how you start with an example from the bible and use it to transition into your point of view.
I would work on providing more arguments in favor of gay marriage besides a religious aspect- maybe use personal stories and struggles of others that went through gay marriage and/or adoption.
Great start to your paper!
Courtney